Conshohocken Burning

MainLineThoughts's picture

Ok, this is the image we should keep in mind as residents of communities planning new development, whenever possible going forward. Whatever ends up being wrong in Conshohocken (even if it was just a horrible accident when all is said and done), shouldn't ever be repeated in a million years! If it means raising the bar with regard to any new construction and construction site safety, we'll all be better off for it.....including developers.

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lmwatcher's picture

When you have a massive fire like this that gets national exposure there is going to be a lot of finger pointing. As with anything like this, government should no doubt be open and honest. It builds public confidence and if government is not open and honest, it erodes public trust. Did Conshy require the proper building permits? If so, did they do the proper inspections? Conshy should absolutely be open and honest about this.

One should also look into the building process. Not saying O'Neill, who is a private citizen and not a public figure, did anything wrong, but in general any builder could take shortcuts - which could be legal shortcuts, but with a desire to cut costs and increase profit end up putting people in danger if a fire were to occur.

Then you can also have the biggest conspiracy (and I'm not saying there is any truth to this) that the fire was intentionally set as an insurance ploy in these tough economic and real estate times.

Regardless, all the displaced owners/renters who lost all their worldly possessions and beloved pets deserve open and honest answers from local government in regards to permits, how the fire started and why it spread so fast.

MainLineThoughts's picture

Well surely, this isn't going to be easy to get around for anyone...check out this old article from Portsmouth RI - I wouldn't comment on it further, it's just kind of a devestating irony/coincidence, isn't it?

MainLineThoughts's picture

See related on development around there:

Conshohocken Recorder:Funding sought for building project in Conshy
By Sandy Bonenberger, Correspondent07/30/2008

The Conshohocken Borough Council Meeting began with a public hearing concerning TIF funding (Tax Intermit Finance) toward the construction costs of Tower Bridge 7, a 10-story building, with four levels of parking along the river front at 110 Washington St. Developer Donald Pulver told council members that he would not be able to finance the project without this added monetary support.

Using this tax tool, granted to local governments, the developer would work with the municipality to provide a loan, taking a percentage of the tax monies collected ...The TIF "loan," in this case amounting to $3 million, would be paid back, with some interest, by the developer over a designated number of years, after the project is completed.

Although the school district and the county have to approve the proposal, the borough council has the final say. The developers would continue to pay their own taxes, while paying back the TIF loan and in no way would this method of financing affect an increase, or decrease, in borough taxes.

The question of why Pulver now need this TIF funding was answered when he explained the Tower Bridge 7 project was more with some unusually high expenditures including the moving of very heavy equipment from the development site and because it is considered a "brown field" area which requires tons of dirt to be hauled to "land fill" the property. The climate for real estate development is not good at this time, he added, it was different before, but has started going downhill. Our "financial partners" who grant the primary loan, know this and so the TIF decision will be a key point in their decision to invest their monies in this development.

If not approved, they will abandon it. If approved, development could start early next year with a foreseeable date of 2010 for completion, he concluded.

Pulver provided aerial photographs showing the redevelopment area "before the 1980s and current shots comparing the difference the development has brought about.
He noted that on both sides of the Schuylkill River in Conshohocken and West Conshohocken, there were mills, factories, abandoned stores and warehouses; now replaced with three million square feet of spectacular office buildings, retail space and a major hotel. The multimillion dollar redevelopment began in the area during the mid-1980s with the construction of Tower Bridge One in West Conshohocken, a 17-story office building, followed by the Marriot Hotel jetting into the skyline. It has been ongoing ever since. ...Council members tabled the vote until August, when they will decide during a future meeting, whether or not to grant the TIF funding. The meeting will be advertised and the residents are encouraged to attend.

Other blogs writing on fire:

Conshy.org Blog

Vincent Brown.com Blog

judiphilly

Jason Salus Conshocken Council Ward 1

P.com video

Spenser A Rubber Door

notes to myself

No Animal Left Behind

justsnarky

phillyblog

MainLineThoughts's picture

More updates, more to think about....how does what happened THERE affect us HERE on this side of the river? What should we be not asking for, but DEMANDING of our local municipalities when it comes to land development? After all, it is no secret that local government only ever pays lips service to residents' concerns, right? They care about private property rights....of big developers, right? They type of construction that caused that fire to go up so fast makes you think, right? It would be interesting to do a survery of new construction of condos and townhomes and apaprtments along the Main Line in the last 6 or 7 years, wouldn't it? How many are steel framed? How many are wooden frame? Maybe now we all can reevalute what we are allowing to be developed in our communities?

Posted on Sun, Aug. 17, 2008
Growing concerns in fire's aftermath
In Conshohocken, optimism singed with reservations
By Diane Mastrull, Larry King and Allison Steele
INQUIRER STAFF WRITERS

As wisps of smoke still lingered from Wednesday's horrific blaze along the Schuylkill, local planners and redevelopment experts were in agreement. Almost certainly, they said last week, the makeover of Conshohocken would survive even this.

The fire, which destroyed two occupied apartment buildings and the unfinished skeleton of a third, proved catastrophic for hundreds of displaced tenants. The buildings' developer, J. Brian O'Neill, estimated damages to be between $50 million and $80 million.

But officials said it hardly would block the continuation of Conshohocken's river-centric renaissance aimed at converting industrial brownfields into residential, commercial and recreational venues.

No sooner was the fire under control than O'Neill had pledged to rebuild "with a vengeance, because we believe in Conshohocken."

"This," he said late Wednesday as firefighters started to roll up hose, "is a revitalization that cannot be set back."

Mixed with an optimism, however, are warnings from land-use experts and Conshohocken residents that this once down-and-nearly-out factory town, which got its new lease on life two decades ago, is showing signs of serious growing pains that could wind up turning the borough into a place to avoid.

From last week's flames, they say, should emerge a review of Conshohocken's comeback so far and a thoughtful exploration of where it should lead.

"They built so much so fast," a rattled Jean Marie Haubert, 51, said as she watched the fire consume a section of the new part of the town that has been her home for 18 years.

Rachelle Gunn, 24, who has lived in Conshohocken for most of her life, said most locals hadn't embraced the Riverwalk plan.

"I don't think Conshohocken is meant to be this extravagant, Manayunk-type place," Gunn said yesterday.sat "They're trying to put all of this stuff into what's really a very small town, and I just don't see it fitting in here the way they want it to."

Posted on Sat, Aug. 16, 2008
The disaster was "totally predictable"
By Jeff Gammage, Diane Mastrull and Larry King
Inquirer Staff Writers

Here's the problem with living in an apartment building that sits beside an active construction site, as several hundred Conshohocken residents learned to their horror on Wednesday:
If the site catches fire, it emits heat far more intense than its occupied neighbor can withstand - and might set that structure alight.

"It is a totally predictable and anticipatable disaster," said Vincent Brannigan, professor of fire-protection engineering at the University of Maryland, after a spectacular fire ravaged the Riverwalk at Millennium luxury apartment complex on the Schuylkill.

Fire investigators already have determined that the fire jumped to occupied buildings after starting at the Stables, a 309-unit complex that was under construction.

"It was a stick building," Conshohocken Fire Chief Robert Phipps said. "You're looking at a lumberyard. Have you ever seen a lumberyard catch fire? That's the way this building went up."

Developer J. Brian O'Neill has rejected any suggestion that an abundance of wood framing played a role in the aggressive pace of the fire. In interviews, he defended the buildings' construction as faithful to code, insisting, "Everything was done right."

lmwatcher's picture

My take on this, and it has been pointed out in several newspaper articles, is that building and fire codes are seriously lacking - at least in Conshy.

What's the point of having firewalls on main floors but not on timber framed attics? One developer was also quoted as saying he would not use these buiding materials. There are wood composites out there that don't burn easily at all, but they are more expensive then the highly flammible wood.

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